Source: 法國網站 CineWebradio (英文在下方)
想練英文嗎?對杯面有絕對的熱情嗎?就到上面的地方練英文閱讀吧。我這邊就把有關 Bale 的部份翻譯出來囉。
(中略在哪部份我就不標了)
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現在是洛杉磯午後,在殺青了幾個月後,演員 Christian Bale、Tom Hardy、Marion Cotillard 還有 Joseph Gordon-Levitt 再次齊聚一堂。
「我們已經把該做的都做了,接下來壓力就落到 Chris 身上了。」頭髮長到肩膀,兩頰帶著一些鬍鬚,與清爽整齊的 Bruce Wayne 有著天差地遠外觀的 Bale 說著。
這是他與 Nolan 第四次的合作(除了 Batman 電影以外,還包括 2006 那神祕的 The Prestige),對於導演要如何安排由他表演了將近十年的角色,Bale 有著絕對的信心。「關於他想表現的電影內容,Chris 總是能夠運用智慧呈現最棒的成品組合。每個角色他都看得非常深入,他總是看進角色內心,他自始自終都默默地這樣做。」Bale 說。
本次新作是 The Dark Knight 八年後的故事,Bale 發現,從以前到現在他陪了 Bruce Wayne 走過一段心路歷程。「到目前為止他做了哪些事情?他想要表現哪些想法?」沉思了一會兒後他繼續說「也目睹著他過去的那段苦痛到底要主導他的人生到哪個地步。」
即使 Bruce 身邊還是有著他所信賴依靠的 Alfred、Lucius Fox 以及 Gordon 局長,他還是活在他親手造成的後果中。Bale 提到「在整個系列中,Alfred 已經提醒過他的作法可能有問題。所以,是到了他是否要讓那段過去繼續主宰他人生的關鍵時刻了。只是,他有辦法放棄嗎?還是說他已經沉迷其中?」
Christopher Nolan 在 Bale 身上看到了 Bruce Wayne 的紀律與專注。導演說道「他不是 Bruce Wayne,他是在扮演 Bruce Wayne,而我覺得他可以辦到,因為他對於工作的態度非常驚人,再提起那些他為了角色而減重的事情已經變得多餘。但對一個真正專注的演員來說,一名顯然會為了目標而投注一切精力並奉獻所有的藝術家來說,他的態度說明了一切。我覺得那不是假裝就可以做到的,我認為要由一個真正能夠辦到這點的人來詮釋,才可以表現這個角色的真髓。」(註:Nolan 其實並不喜歡他的 The Machinist)
穿上 Batman 的斗篷也需要 Bale 獻身精神,他笑稱那身裝扮讓他「苦樂參半」。他說「在某些時候,在那裝扮中的我簡直快沒命了,只是我不想承認,因為外表的我可是 Batman 啊。當我開始抱怨那套服裝時,我同時也理解到我所扮演角色是多麼的經典,能夠飾演他是無上的光榮。」
Tom Hardy - 他得穿上盔甲以及一片特大的面具以飾演凶惡的壞蛋 Bane - 他回想起一段珍貴的時刻。事情發生在華爾街,片場有一堆人要完成一場浩大的畫面,這兩名演員正在拍攝打鬥戲。Tom 回憶著「那是我第一次聽到 Christian 說他累了。我已經看他在又濕又冷的狀況下被打看了好幾個月了,而他一句累也沒吭。在戲服中的我已經去了半條命,但是我想到『他都沒被戲服打倒,我怎麼可以被戲服打倒呢。』卻在華爾街上,他回頭跟我說『你知道嗎?我累死了。』我回他說『我也是。』」(註:Anne Hathaway 也說:貓女的戲服有如心靈上的恐怖份子)
「於是我們停止了打鬥,兩人擁抱在一起。」Bale 補充說明。
在訪談中,大家都笑著,他們都回想著拍攝過程中的幽默時刻以及培養出來的感情。跟 Bale一樣,Cotillard、Hardy 還有 Gordon-Levitt 都之前與 Nolan 在奧斯卡加冕的 "Inception" 中合作過。Bale 說「Chris 喜歡與他所信任的人合作,所以他喜歡起用先前合作過的人。」
在拍攝早期,他們去了印度焦耳布達。Bale 笑著說「當地人都把我們當瘋子(註:Rescue Dawn 到泰國拍攝時,Bale 說泰國人也把他們當瘋子)。我們身在華氏 120 度的高溫中。我認為由火熱帶起整個氣氛應該可以算是很棒的開頭。」
「能夠到很多地點拍攝是個很好的主意,這讓一切變成一場大冒險。」Bale 再次補充說。
(想看 Bale 部分的原文,請到繼續閱讀)
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It’s now an afternoon in Los Angeles, and cast-members Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, Marion Cotillard and Joseph Gordon-Levitt have come together months after wrapping production.
“We’ve done our work; the pressure’s on Chris now,” says Bale, who has grown his hair down to his shoulders with the ghost of a beard on his chin—a completely different look from Bruce Wayne’s finely groomed profile.
In his fourth collaboration with Nolan (including the 2006 mystery The Prestige in addition to the Batman films), Bale trusted the director to create a worthy finale for the character he has embodied for nearly a decade. “Chris has always got a great combination of cerebral choices with the story and where he wants to take it,” Bale says. “Then he goes into the heart of each character, finding what’s underneath, which is the subtext throughout.”
As the film picks up eight years after The Dark Knight, Bale found his way back to Bruce Wayne by focusing on his internal journey from then until now, “What he’s been doing in that time; what he’s had to reflect upon,” he muses. “How long does somebody let this painful episode in his past continue to direct his life?”
Though Bruce remains surrounded by his trusted inner circle of Alfred, Lucius Fox and Commissioner Gordon (played again by legendary actors Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman, respectively), he is living with the consequences of choices he has made on his own. “Throughout the saga, Alfred has warned him what could go wrong,” Bale says. “So, this is crunch time for how much longer he can let it dominate his life. But can he give it up? Or has he become addicted to it?”
In Bale, Christopher Nolan sees a parallel with Bruce Wayne’s sense of discipline and focus. “He’s not Bruce Wayne,” the director states. “He’s playing Bruce Wayne, but I think he’s able to do that because he himself has an incredible dedication to his craft. It’s redundant to talk about roles where he’s lost weight or thrown himself into it, but it is indicative of a truly focused performer, an artist who just wants to lose himself in what he’s doing and commit to it absolutely. I think that’s something that can’t be faked. I think that actually had to be in the guy to play this role.”
Bale’s dedication also required the actor to climb back into Batman’s cape and cowl, which he laughingly describes as “a bittersweet thing.” “There are certain moments when you’re dying inside it, but you don’t want to admit it because you’re Batman on the outside,” he says. “The second you start complaining about the suit, you just recognize what a great iconic character you get to play and what an honor that is.”
Tom Hardy—who dons body armor and a bulky breathing mask as the menacing villain Bane—recalls precisely that moment. It happened in the midst of a massive crowd scene on Wall Street in Manhattan, during a fight sequence between their two characters. “It was the first time I ever heard Christian say he was tired,” Hardy remembers. “I was watching him for however many months getting beaten up and wet and cold, and he never said anything. Inside, I was dying, but I was thinking, ‘This can’t bother me because he’s not bothered.’ But on Wall Street, he just turned and said, ‘You know what? I’m exhausted.’ I said, ‘Me too.’”
“We stopped the fight and started hugging each other,” Bale adds.
Everyone at the table laughs, all recalling with humor and affection their experience making the film. Like Bale, Cotillard, Hardy and Gordon-Levitt had also previously worked with Nolan, on his Oscar-winning film Inception. “Chris likes to find people that he really trusts, so there is a continuity to his films,” Bale says.
Early in the production, they touched down in a remote expanse near Jodhpur, India. “The locals thought we were nuts,” Bale says with a laugh. “We were out in 120-degree heat. I thought it was a great induction by fire into the whole thing.”
“It was nice to mix it up and go to different places,” Bale adds. “It makes it an adventure.”

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